In episode 2 of the Easy Nourished Dwelling podcast (https://www.youtube.com/@MarthaMcKinnon), hosts Martha Mckinnon and Peter Morrison talk about the theme “You’re Not Damaged, You’re Human.” They discover the affect of atmosphere on consuming habits, share private experiences, and emphasize the significance of mindset within the weight reduction journey. The dialog is enriched by insights from the e book ‘Senseless Consuming,’ which highlights how our environment affect our meals decisions and behaviors. The hosts encourage listeners to embrace their humanity and perceive that errors are a part of the educational course of.
Key Takeaways
- You aren’t damaged, you’re human.
- Senseless Consuming was a transformative e book for me.
- Your mindset performs a vital function in your journey.
- Re-engineering your atmosphere might help with consuming habits.
- Meals is extra accessible now than ever earlier than.
- Understanding your atmosphere can result in higher decisions.
- Errors are simply suggestions, not failures.
- It’s a must to begin the place you’re in your journey.
- It’s vital to benefit from the strategy of cooking and consuming.
- Mindfulness might help you’re taking cost of your consuming.
You Are Not Damaged, You Are Human – Podcast 002
Video Transcript
Martha McKinnon (00:00)
Hello, welcome to the Easy Nourish Dwelling podcast. I’m Martha and that is my brother and associate, Peter. Hello, the way you doing?
Peter Morrison (00:06)
Hi there. Hello. Good, how are you doing at this time?
Martha McKinnon (00:12)
Good, rather well. So our subject for at this time is, you’re not damaged, you’re human. And that basically, that consciousness got here to me years in the past within the e book, Senseless Consuming, that you just’ll hear me speaking about rather a lot as a result of it actually was life altering for me. However earlier than we get into the subject at this time, what’s new and good in your world?
Peter Morrison (00:35)
I made a very good soup final night time.
Martha Mckinnon (00:38)
Inform us extra. I I like to know what persons are consuming.
Peter Morrison (00:40)
Effectively, yeah, as a result of typically engaged on easy nourished residing, cooking might be difficult as a result of we take a look at recipes, we have now to {photograph}, typically I like cooking only for the pleasure of cooking (affiliate hyperlink). Effectively, I like the work we do, typically it appears like work and typically the enjoyment is just not there once I’m cooking.
So yesterday I used to be simply enjoying and I had a bundle of butternut squash. I’ve just lately found that it’s very easy to roast within the air fryer, which I’ve performed a few instances. However I actually needed soup as a result of it’s been chilly right here. So I roasted a bundle of butternut squash. I don’t know. It was perhaps round 16 ounces or so. Roasted that.
Martha McKinnon (01:28)
So once you say a bundle of butternut squash, it’s already like peeled and chopped. Yeah.
Peter Morrison (01:32)
Yeah, yeah, like a plastic container already chopped and peeled from Dealer Joe’s. What did I take advantage of? I used herb de Provence and just a few sea salt and slightly little bit of oil roasted that for about 20 minutes within the air fireplace actually fast. And whereas that was cooking, I used to be doing a little, some work truly. After which when that was performed.
Martha McKinnon (01:49)
Mm-hmm.
Peter Morrison (01:55)
I blended it with slightly rooster broth as a result of I needed a form of creamy soup, I didn’t need a chunky soup. I type of needed a smoother soup, regardless that it ended up being chunky, however I’ll get to that in a minute. And I had some mild coconut milk. And so I used to be going for type of a Thai Asiany type of style. And I had some crimson Thai chili paste. So after I blended it and obtained the…
Martha McKinnon (02:08)I like cooking. I like cooking.
Peter Morrison (02:27)
the squash all clean, added it to a big sauce pan, added the coconut milk, after which I had some leftover rotisserie rooster. And I simply was having enjoyable with the spices, you understand, including, the Thai chili, after which I added some ginger, I added some nutmeg, it was simply actually enjoyable. After which I needed slightly extra veg in it. And I had a bundle of inexperienced beans. So I simply chopped up or truly simply broke them aside into inch lengthy items and threw in some inexperienced beans.
Martha McKinnon (02:40)
huh.
Peter Morrison (02:52)
So it did find yourself type of being chunky, but it surely was like that creamy, coconutty Thai with the squash. It was actually good and we had a pleasant little bottle of crimson wine with it. So it’s a recipe I believe may very well be good for the web site. And, and I could sooner or later work on quantities of substances and spices.
Martha McKinnon (02:52)
Yeah. Ooh, Mm-hmm. Perfecting it in quantities and all the small print you want once you’re going to share the recipe. that’s cool.
Peter Morrison (03:21)
Proper. But it surely was enjoyable simply not desirous about photos and quantities and simply simply having enjoyable.
Martha McKinnon (03:27)
Proper. It form of will get you within the circulation. There’s some cool quote I learn just lately about that. Once you’re within the circulation state, there’s no nervousness. You’re simply you’re in a very you’re simply in a very cool spot, you understand.
Peter Morrison (03:31)
Yeah. And I simply was going with my style within the second as a result of I had in my thoughts what I used to be searching for, however I didn’t actually know the way I used to be going to get there. So I used to be tasting because it was heating and I simply form of went with it, yeah. In order that was enjoyable.
Martha McKinnon (03:53)
Yeah. Sounds yummy. Cool. Effectively, that’s nice.
Peter Morrison (04:01)
What about you? What’s going good for you this week?
Martha McKinnon (04:03)
Effectively, as you understand, on Sunday, we despatched out an announcement that we have been going to be beginning this podcast, that we had this intention round beginning this. And we requested for ideas from our readers. And I’ve been type of blown away by simply the variety of responses and the standard and simply the attention-grabbing questions and ideas that got here forth. And so I haven’t been in a position to learn all of them but, however we’ve began a spreadsheet as you understand to only seize all these nice concepts. I don’t have any expectations round this as you understand we’ve talked about it we type of determined that is one thing we needed to strive, type of like we tried the web site, so I didn’t actually have any expectations about what the response could be or what the sorts of you understand questions or concepts or ideas may come forth. So I’m simply actually pleasantly stunned by all that.
Peter Morrison (04:42)
Mm-hmm. And what I discovered attention-grabbing as I used to be scanning the feedback and suggestions was how assorted the response was. And there wasn’t lots of overlap. There weren’t lots of people saying the identical factor. It was a variety of matters and concepts and ideas.
Martha McKinnon (05:05)
There wasn’t. And I believe that’s actually cool as a result of, you understand, we typically sit right here in a bubble and we have now concepts about what could be useful, however by no means may we have now provide you with, proper? All of these, that number of concepts. So, thanks all people who took the time to submit a suggestion. We’re actually appreciative of that.
Peter Morrison (05:24)
Proper. And if at any time throughout any of those movies you do have an concept or suggestion, please be happy to drop it under within the feedback and we’ll add it to our record.
Martha McKinnon (05:41)
Yeah, completely. Completely. that is now podcast quantity two. Yeah. So we’re a good distance from feeling snug doing this, however we’re simply going to maintain plodding alongside. As a result of this entire expertise is admittedly analogous to me to the entire weight reduction journey. And we’ve talked rather a lot about you simply can’t wait on your circumstance to be excellent. I imply, once you wish to transfer one thing ahead once you wish to accomplish one thing, you need to simply type of begin the place you’re, proper? Use what you will have and simply do what you’ll be able to. And that’s how we make errors and, and, proper, and notice that there isn’t any mistake, proper? There’s no failure, actually, there’s simply suggestions, we’re going to discover ways to do that, similar to the load loss journey. And it’s like, once you actually change your focus that means, as a substitute of getting it’s feeling overwhelmed.
Peter Morrison (06:14)
Mm-hmm. Make errors, be taught from them.
Martha McKinnon (06:35)
It’s simply type of an experiment. And once you change your focus and you alter the best way you take a look at it, it could actually begin to grow to be, I believe, type of enjoyable, proper? And rather a lot much less overwhelming relying on the way you spin it. So, yeah.
Peter Morrison (06:48)
Positively. So that you’re not damaged. Inform me extra.
Martha McKinnon (06:51)
Proper, so I believe you’ve most likely heard me speak rather a lot about, and there a number of posts, and we’ll speak extra about senseless consuming.
Peter Morrison (06:59)
Which I haven’t learn but, however I hope that is perhaps one video collection we’d have the ability to do.
Martha McKinnon (07:05)
Yeah, perhaps like form of a e book membership as a result of there’s a collection of posts that I did years in the past on the web site the place I attempted to attempt to do this type of digital type of e book membership. It has been so life-changing for me. It comes up up up many times and once more. And all of us have totally different aha moments. , lots of people might learn it, however lots of the suggestions I went again in preparation for this and checked out that submit week one of many problem and there are lots of feedback. It was performed again in like 2017, and there are lots of actually good feedback on there about how individuals have been following alongside and studying it and having those self same type of ah-has.
Peter Morrison (07:35)
Wow. And do I bear in mind accurately? That’s one thing you probably did within the summertime.
Martha McKinnon (07:46)
I did, yeah, so the story behind that was we flip again in 2017. We have been residing a portion of the yr. We have been residing the winter and spring and fall in Phoenix. After which we for the summer season we have been going to northern Wisconsin. And once more, by the point I did the problem, I imply, a few years had handed. However I used to be attending Weight Watchers, however I used to be over aim by like seven or eight kilos and simply nothing was actually taking place. I felt like I used to be following the plan. I felt like I used to be doing what I wanted to do and I felt fairly caught. My chief at that time, I imply, as a result of the aim was one thing I set again once I was 28 years previous and as a lifetime Weight Watcher, you understand, I used to be nonetheless form of in a wholesome vary and he or she’s like, nicely, you will have the you will have the power to only change your aim weight. You are able to do it as soon as, guess, based on this system. And he or she’s like, you understand, perhaps it’s time to consider that. I used to be feeling good. , it was simply, you understand, once I was within the wholesome vary, it was similar to, the a part of me needed to only get again to that aim. And so I made a decision to take off the summer season as a result of we have been going to northern Wisconsin, the place the closest Weight Watchers assembly was going to be like an hour away. And that wasn’t going to occur.
Peter Morrison (08:57)
Hmm.
Martha McKinnon (08:59)
So I simply determined to take the summer season off from Weight Watchers and I occurred to learn this e book and the e book was known as senseless consuming why you eat greater than you suppose. Now for years I had seen that e book and I simply was like resentful of the title as a result of I used to be like after all I do know after all I’m not senseless, after all I understand how a lot I’m consuming. why I’m not consuming greater than I believe however anyway it took me a number of years and I lastly learn the e book and it was similar to ha ha ha ha it was simply it was a light-weight bulb, watershed second for me and I simply I discovered myself laughing out loud. I imply it’s a really attention-grabbing e book.
The experiments and research which were performed to show the truth that we’re senseless over how a lot we eat. I imply it was simply plain. However the e book principally begins off by saying you’re not damaged, you’re human. And right here’s all of the experiments and listed here are all the explanations for that to be true. And so I simply actually actually really feel strongly about sharing that with individuals as a result of I believe so many people beat ourselves up over, the load administration facet of our lives and we really feel like we’re damaged. For me, the surplus weight began fairly younger, know, third, fourth grade on and so it at all times felt like this battle and battle and I felt dangerous for no matter cause.
And so once I realized that I wasn’t damaged, I used to be human, it was like my goodness I imply it took all this stress away and and it made it made it enjoyable as a result of what he factors out is the truth that as people by you understand by my gosh by the centuries by millennia we have been designed for survival to be on the see-food eating regimen. Primarily see meals proper not seafood.
Peter Morrison (10:20)
Mmm.
Martha McKinnon (10:41)
As a result of the world, the atmosphere was very a lot unpredictable. And typically meals was plentiful and typically meals was scarce. So, proper. Yeah. So that you needed to eat up when the meals was out there and plentiful. So your entire biology is designed, to eat up once you see meals, once you’re within the presence of meals, since you simply don’t know the way lengthy earlier than your subsequent meal. Now quick ahead, proper to the environment now, proper.
Peter Morrison (10:45)
Mm-hmm. All proper.
Martha McKinnon (11:11)
And I’m speaking in regards to the atmosphere. I’m speaking about an atmosphere, proper? Within the developed world, in the US, I’m not speaking about locations the place meals shortage is actual. And there are elements of the world the place that’s nonetheless true. However right here in the US the place we dwell, we’ve by no means recognized, proper? Personally, I imply, meals, rising up within the seventies and eighties, imply, meals has simply been plentiful. Then, and you concentrate on how way more out there it’s.
Peter Morrison (11:12)
Meals is in every single place!
Martha McKinnon (11:36)
The foundations even again within the 70s, proper? And the provision was means lower than it’s now. I imply, it’s in every single place and you’ll have it immediately, proper? You’ve obtained Uber Eats, DoorDash, you’ve obtained the microwave (affiliate hyperlink). I imply, what’s the delay? Like you concentrate on what the delay was between I’m feeling hungry, like, you understand, even 100 years in the past between I’m hungry, proper?
Peter Morrison (11:47)
Mm hmm. Door to ash Uber eats. Yeah.
Martha McKinnon (12:04)
Let’s determine what to eat versus now. I imply, I’ve this facsimile of the Fanny Farmer Cookbook, the early like I believe it was 1898 model of that. And once you open the cookbook, the primary 4 or 5 pages are all about the best way to mild your wooden range. , suppose proper earlier than electrical energy, what did it take to fireplace up the range?
Peter Morrison (12:24)
My goodness.
Martha Mckinnon (12:31)
However then first you needed to then go get the wooden for the range and what it took to how distant may your grocery retailer have been if there was a grocery retailer? In all probability not even. When you concentrate on that, the delay and the provision versus now, how far are you away from having that I’m hungry second to having the ability to fulfill it? Seconds.
Peter Morrison (12:38)
Proper, most likely not even. Between drive-throughs and fuel stations and grocery shops.
Martha McKinnon (12:57)
Yeah, proper. And so, so what he mentioned to me simply was like, and the entire examples he gave was like, my gosh. He’s a he was a professor at numerous universities, and ran all of those experiments. And he was simply fascinated by meals and well being and weight and the advertising and the way it all interrelated.
And he simply did all of those research and experiments demonstrating how the environment can affect us in ways in which we don’t even notice. , the scale of the bowls, the scale of the packaging, the menu descriptions, you understand, how we’re simply influenced, the variety of individuals we’re consuming with. He simply goes on and on with all of those examples.
And by doing that, he actually helps present the entire methods you could engineer as a result of his his tenant was that, yeah, when you can grow to be actually conscious, and that’s one other strategy to take higher cost of what you’re consuming and the way a lot you’re consuming. However in a distractible, busy world, that may be actually troublesome. So he got here up with what he known as this senseless consuming method, he known as it the senseless margin and the truth that he mentioned it was simpler to he says it’s simpler to re engineer your atmosphere than it’s to alter your thoughts.
And so, and that’s what I began doing. In order that summer season, I simply began enjoying with all of those ideas when it comes to getting meals out of view, like out of sight, out of thoughts, which was extremely highly effective. Creating little obstacles and roadblocks for making the true tempting meals much less out there. And my gosh.
Peter Morrison (14:37)
Did it work?
Martha McKinnon (14:39)
So my story is, once more, I used to be taking the summer season off, so I didn’t weigh, I simply performed, and I instituted all of those guidelines that I realized. I got here again within the fall, and I went to my assembly, and I used to be again, I used to be beneath aim. In a means that felt enjoyable and unstressful.
Peter Morrison (14:53)
Wow. So that you didn’t really feel disadvantaged?
Martha McKinnon (15:02)
No, no. And once more, I believe that’s what we’re going to want to speak about rather a lot right here as a result of I actually imagine that your mindset is simply such a giant a part of this. It truly is a thoughts, physique, spirit type of journey. What I’ve come to see too is all of it will depend on the way you’re one thing, whether or not or not you are feeling disadvantaged or not. , I don’t know if we’ve talked. I believe I’ve talked with you about this earlier than, however perhaps not, the place we’ve recorded it.
However you understand for years like usually we exit with mother, you understand we’ve made it a practice to exit with mother at the very least as soon as every week typically extra. And I usually, particularly residing in Phoenix the place the local weather is admittedly type of scorching, and I’d be out at lunch however I’d wish to come residence and be ok with no vitality hunch and I’ve simply discovered that you understand very nice salads performed with like grilled protein and stuff are simply one thing that I like and that basically work for me. I usually would select that as a result of that’s actually what I needed they usually made me pleased. I used to be by no means sitting there pondering I don’t need this salad. I want I used to be having the burger and fries. If I needed the burger and fries, I’d let myself have it.
However my mother, I heard mother like afterwards say I simply I simply don’t even perceive how one can exit week after week and simply get the salad. So she was seeing it by a completely totally different lens, you understand, the place I used to be completely pleased and he or she’s like, you understand, you’re by no means, you’re by no means not on a eating regimen. And it’s like, I don’t really feel like I’m on a eating regimen. I really feel like I’m residing my life in a means that basically, actually works for me the place there have been instances previously the place I did really feel like I used to be on a eating regimen and I did really feel like I used to be disadvantaged.
And so like your mindset and like that summer season of the senseless consuming factor, was enjoyable to only form of play and experiment and say, I’m wondering what is going to occur. And I imply, one of many massive issues for me was the scale of your dishes. I don’t even suppose we notice how vital it’s when it comes to feeling glad.
Peter Morrison (16:55)
Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (17:07)
Like when you take a cup of cereal, which is a typical serving proper of a cereal and you place it in a humongous bowl.
Peter Morrison (17:13)
It doesn’t appear like lots of meals.
Martha McKinnon (17:14)
It appears to be like pitiful. It appears to be like pitiful. You take a look at it you say, I’m going to starve to dying, proper? That may’t be sufficient. However when you put it in and typically you need to exit now and discover smaller bowls, as a result of along with our meals being tremendous sized, like our dishes are tremendous sized. So the bowls that are available in a set of dishes are too massive. You bought to exit and pay extra, you understand, for a smaller bowl, which I did.
Peter Morrison (17:19)
Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (17:40)
However you place a cup of, cereal in an inexpensive sized bowl and you place some fruit on high and you place some milk on it and it appears to be like beneficiant. And so all of these issues he talks about within the e book, the truth that when you attempt to free pour a serving of cereal into a kind of big bowls, guess what you’re going to do? Yeah, you’re going to pour in like two or three servings. o he provides you all these nice examples. And so it turned enjoyable and playful.
Peter Morrison (17:59)
Over poor.
Martha McKinnon (18:07)
And I proceed to include what I realized from studying that e book into my life. And it’s been actually magical. And I nonetheless must name upon it and remind myself, as a result of I’ll get in conditions the place you go to someone’s home for dinner and there’s a bunch of appetizers out.
Peter Morrison (18:24)
Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (18:25)
And I discover myself like overindulging as a result of it’s there. a part of me may wish to say, Martha, you don’t have any self-control. After which I remind myself, you’re human. And once you’re standing right here in entrance of meals, don’t be stunned, you understand, if you wish to eat it, since you’re going to have to remain actually conscious and current and evoke willpower, proper? As a way to restrict your self. And so once more, you’ll be able to, there are strategies, proper?
For managing that and saying, nicely, I’m going to get myself slightly plate, proper? And I’ll put the meals on it and I’ll go take pleasure in it and I’ll stroll away after which I’ll step away from the place all of these apps are out and I’ll go have dialog, you understand, till dinner. And so once more, it simply feels extra easeful to understand it’s not me. I’m doing what any human being is gonna do on this circumstance. I’m not damaged.
Peter Morrison (19:14)
Mm.
Martha McKinnon (19:19)
And so I simply wish to share that with individuals and assist them perceive as a result of I actually suppose that may enable you on this journey and once you begin to simply actually take a look at the atmosphere outdoors of you and perceive the entire methods it’s influencing you. I used to be perpetually an enormous fan of the Meals Community and I don’t actually watch the Meals Community anymore I imply, you’ll sit there and also you’ll watch and also you’ll be uncovered to those issues.
And instantly you’ll be like, I would like that. I want that. I’m hungry. The place that got here from the surface. If I actually step again and verify, nicely, are you actually, are you actually hungry? Or are you simply salivating since you’re seeing it? Proper. And oftentimes you simply begin salivating as a result of that’s what you’re designed to do once you see it. Once you’re out, you understand, on the mall and also you scent it, you understand, instantly you’re like,
Peter Morrison (19:43)
I’m hungry. Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (20:10)
I want that the place you’re you’re being influenced from the surface and the and the extra you notice that the extra you’ll be able to simply type of step again and simply say you understand I can take cost right here. And one of many big issues I recommend to all people is simply actually check out and we will speak extra about this we will produce other classes the place we simply speak extra about how will you actually take a look at your atmosphere or your areas proper if we will actually form of take a look at our areas, the environment and say, how can I set this as much as be useful for me? How, if I go searching, is it dangerous for me? You’ll be able to simply change, imply, you will get to the place you wish to get to in a a lot simpler, a lot gentler, much less traumatic means. And the identical along with your habits.
Peter Morrison (20:50)
Effectively, I’m undoubtedly, regardless that I don’t have any direct want or quick want, would say that the e book sounds actually attention-grabbing. And I believe we should always undoubtedly put it on the schedule as a result of it sounds prefer it may stir some attention-grabbing concepts
Martha McKinnon (21:03)
Yeah. I believe so.
And I bear in mind, you might not bear in mind this, however we had a cellphone dialog. I don’t know. I believe you have been, you have been up and also you needed to, I believe you had taken Neil for an appointment and also you have been searching for a spot away from that appointment web site for us to speak. And the place that was advised to you was like a donut store, I believe, or a bakery. Do not forget that? See, all this stuff stick with me as a result of I at all times consider them when it comes to senseless consuming, however you have been like, no, that’s not the place I wish to go sit. Proper. As a result of I’m, if I sit in a donut store, it’s okay to have, I’m not saying you’ll be able to’t have a donut, however I believe you wish to be having the donut since you really need the donut, not simply because it’s there. Proper. And I’ll simply share yet one more story that’s coming into my thoughts at this second. Mother had a pal, again in Phoenix who had a daughter who.
Peter Morrison (21:49)
Proper,
Martha McKinnon (21:58)
was struggling together with her weight and Patty was making an attempt to assist, you understand, her daughter set, you understand, some boundaries. And I used to be having a dialog together with her sooner or later and he or she had a job the place she labored in, she labored in a bookstore, I believe that was adjoining to love an ice cream sweet store. And it was the expectation that, I imply, each day, this younger one that was making an attempt to rein herself in, however primarily she was taking her lunch within the sweet store ice cream store. And I’m like, that’s like, that’s like a level of issue. I imply, I take into consideration that’s only a, that’s a level of issue that you just simply don’t wish to topic your self to. , when you’re actually desirous to be variety to your self, you understand, when you’re making an attempt to surrender consuming, you’re not going to be hanging out with your mates on the bar.
Peter Morrison (22:28)
Hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Martha McKinnon (22:49)
You’re going to search out some other place to hang around the place the temptation is just not there. And when you’re making an attempt to eat much less sugar, in a super world, you’re not going to be sitting within the sweet store consuming your sandwich as a result of, my gosh, the temptation is throughout you.
So there you will have it. You’re not damaged. You’re human. And that is what people do. And once you see it that means, however the environment is damaged. , the environment actually now’s designed to lead to what we’re seeing. , we’ve obtained a giant drawback with, chubby and, our our bodies, our biology hasn’t modified that a lot.
However the environment positive has. And when you simply begin trying on the atmosphere and also you take a look at a number of the choices on the eating places, know, the truth that, my gosh, you understand, a few of these meals can have a full days price of energy in like one meal.
Peter Morrison (23:43)
Yeah, some portion sizes at some eating places is unbelievable for a single meal, not household fashion,
Martha McKinnon (23:47)
Proper. So all of these issues, proper. Proper. So we will speak an increasing number of about all types of ideas which might be made in senseless consuming to assist handle these conditions to be able to really feel extra in cost and extra in management and you’ll notice, you understand, what’s taking place and stop it. So I believe it’s only a actual highly effective shift in your pondering.
Peter Morrison (24:11)
Effectively, nice. I believe that’s an exquisite concept. Very useful.
Martha McKinnon (24:17)
Alright, nicely thanks for tuning in and once more when you have any concepts for different matters you prefer to explored, please depart them within the feedback under. And please, please, when you’re interested by studying extra, subscribe to our channel.
Peter Morrison (24:32)
Thanks.
Martha Mckinnon (24:33)
Thanks.
